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Great jeans, but i ordered 2 pairs, different colors, same size, but one pair was shorter than the other! I sent the one back, got them the next size longer and they were right, the same length as the pair i liked. 32 and 30 were the same length. So i guess order 2 sizes and send the one you don't like back.

I haven't a clue as to what is RETRO about these jeans except maybe that they do have the standard 7 belt loops vice the new common 5 loops and maybe the wrangler patch. Beyond that I haven't a clue. The denim is very light, they are VERY baggy in the hips and thigh and I can not believe they rate them as slim fit, NOT EVEN A LITTLE. Even the stitching on the back pockets was not the traditional wrangler W. Returned them immediately. I have no idea who Wrangler is trying to impress but I don't think it is those of us that grew up with their awesome jeans that they no longer seem to care about making.

First, I have to say I love Wranglers, been wearing them my whole life. My last purchase was disappointing. I ordered a couple pairs of jeans and the fit was perfect, but one pair had a hole in them about 1/8" in diameter. I called support and was told they could not be replaced so my money was refunded. The disappointing part was the jeans were still available, but no longer on sale. I felt the sale price should have been honored and the jeans replaced. At least, IMHO...

I have worn the Retro Slim Straight jeans for a number of years because I love the style/fit. That said, I have had 3-4 pairs recently that developed thin spots by the rear pocket rivets and ultimately split down the seat of the jeans and had to be thrown out. The quality needs to be improved. Given this quality issue, I have started to look at other brands like Kimes given their denim is heavier (13oz), no rivets, etc.. I would like to see the Wrangler Retros built more like the Kimes jeans.